Muslim Taqiyya Kitman-New York Times

taqiyya-kitmanMassive hordes of Muzzies, within U.S. and abroad, instead of effectively using time to find jobs and stay employed like most responsible citizens of the host countries, would stay at home claiming welfare and unemployment benefits, making more Muzzy babies with multiple wives, being radicalized, plotting jihads, and swamping message boards with their deceptive Muzzy taqiyya/kitman and Muzzy propaganda, under fake names, fake avatars, fake stories, while pathetically voting themselves up, as usual. Their goal is to weaken the non-Muslim countries, including those in the West, by Muslim immigration to flood the host countries with future jihadists toward global Islamization. Of course, once any of these Muzzy immigrants eventually commits terrorist acts, these pathetic goat fornicating, camels’ urine drinking, daughters killing, taqiyya mouth breathers would laugh like hyenas in celebration (just like they did on 9/11).

From here  by David M. Herszenhorn

1. Comments from Muzzies


Bay area, CA

The most powerful way of fighting the evils that force people to uproot and risk their lives is to respond with compassion. For every potential extremist that we imagine may stray into our humanitarian arms, there will be thousands of children who can grow up seeing firsthand that people can love, trust, understand, and comfort strangers from distant lands and from different religions. <How did that turn out for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generations of Mulims living in the West that still committed jihads and terror, domestically and abroad? these refugees can be put in your neighborhood, YES? %38.8 of Muslims support 9/11, and %49.9 of Muslims support Bin Ladin. %38.8 and %49.9 of something are not 1 out of thousands, moron!>

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Norfolk, VA

Clearly, we see a moral imperative to do something versus a political appetite to do nothing. Which will win out?

Leaders (individuals and nations) lead by example. Are we still the nation described by Emma Lazarus over a century ago, welcoming “the homeless tempest-tossed” or is that nation a romantic fiction, having lost our way – adrift and lost ourselves? <these refugees can be put in your neighborhood, YES?>

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A. Bloom

Rural Illinois

We have certainly done enough to bring war, weapons, and destabilization to the rest of the world. Now that we see the fruits of all of that warfare, like millions of families with no choice but to try to save their children only to lose them in a rubber raft in high seas or suffocated in some refrigerator truck, that’s somebody else’s problem? We’re weary? Let Europe worry about it? Wow. <these refugees can be put in your neighborhood, YES?>

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As observed by others, millions of immigrants are living here without background checks. Most of them are working–long, hard hours! — for Americans whose ancestors arrived and moved in without background checks, people from countries of Europe who also dreamed.

Are we so lacking in self-confidence that we quake at the thought of some thugs among the thousands? <ugh, %38.8 Muslims support 9/11, and %49.9 supports Bin Laden. %38.8 and $49.9 of something is NOT some thugs among the thousands> This is the fundamental element in the police state mentality — “We’re threatened and fearful, but the police state will protect you,” followed by: “Only people of certain ethnic backgrounds can be trusted.”

Who would have imagined the world could go through the same cycle that began a century ago with the Great War, and yet here we are again, right down to numbers written on wrists by Indelible Inksters (II), people herded onto trains under false pretenses <what false pretense?>, all to protect the purity of the population, no doubt! <actually to protect their history, cultural values, moral foundation, and civilizations from goat fornicating, camels’ urine drinking, daughters killing, violent jihadist horde of murderous pedophiles>

WHERE IS AMERICA? The world needs you–again. Elaborate regulations and background checks are the stuff of frightened people. That is not meant to be our destiny.

A little boy lying on the beach needed us. We must not, cannot, miss another chance. We owe it — to ourselves. <these refugees can be put in your neighborhood, YES?>

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I’m an American citizen living in Austria <yeah, right, and Islam is the cult of peace, and Mohammed was not a murderous pedophile>. In this article, and among many comments it is stated falsely that this is a European problem–NO, its not, its a humanitarian crisis since these refugees are fleeing war with their families and like every human being wants to live and not be slaughtered. We are in this TOGETHER, since today it is the Syrians and tomorrow–you and me!

If a tiny country like Austria is taking in thousands of people daily, who were mistreated and threatened in Hungary, I feel its a sick joke when America makes excuses saying that “perhaps” they can take 1,800 next year! Do you think that Austria had time to do a “background check” on people fleeing? <maybe, maybe not, but these immigrants can be put in your neighborhood, yes?>

President Obama, who I voted for twice <yeah, right, and Islam is the cult of peace> has remained mostly silent. Please sing Amazing GRACE NOW and let people who are fleeing war in! <nah, the Muslim-in-Chief probably knows more about Koran verses than lyrics of Amazing Grace>

Yesterday I spent all day into the night with 100 kilos of day old bread that my brother-in-law cannot sell the next day, along with all other willing volunteers, to meet the trains coming through filled with hungry and tired human beings <yeah, right, and Islam is the cult of peace>. Many were crying when they got the bread. I went to children first. I spoke to all who I met and tried to comfort them and give them kindness which was from my heart. That any human being can do! I was amazed at how many volunteers were there because they cannot tolerate what they saw happen in Hungary <could they tolerate what they saw at Charlie Hebdo shooting? Fort Hood Shooting? Boston bombing? Chattanooga Shooting, all caused by immigrated Muslim terrorists in the West?>, plus the pictures of what happened to those two innocent boys in Turkey! Where are you America?

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Santa Cruz, California

The family of the 3 year old who drowned between Turkey and Greece, after a flimsy raft supplied by dishonest smugglers capsized, is Kurdish. Kurds are taking a leading role in fighting ISIS (which emerged out of the Iraqi political vacuum after the U.S. overthrow of Saddam in Iraq). It is time for Americans to take some responsibility for their actions and their mistakes, and share in helping alleviate the human tragedy of Syrian refugees. <these immigrants can be put in your neighborhood, yes?>

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Dave BrownDenver, ColoradoI remember when we accepted Vietnamese refugees here in Denver. There were plenty of phobic groups, but they assimilated and revitalized areas and are a part of our city that makes our city a great place. <well, has the Muslims integrated like the Vietnamese (or like any other immigrant groups, for that matter), given that even 2nd, 3rd, 4th generations of Muslims caught engaging in terrorism and jihads?>It seems to me Denver would welcome Syrians and it seems to me that a place like Detroit <uh, bad example! Care to explain no-go zones in Dearborn, MI?> could begin rebuilding itself with a migration of people who would greatly appreciate the opportunity to begin a new life.

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What an amazing intro paragraph: “In the United States, there is little appetite for allowing large numbers of displaced Syrians to settle in a country still weary from two wars and struggling with its own immigration problems.”

The US – “weary” from two wars?? We don’t know what war is, outside of the families who have lost loved ones or had them come home physically, mentally and spiritually wounded. The right has “little appetite” for brown immigrants on any day. Don’t apply that soulless kind of thinking to the entire public.

The US has contributed hugely to this situation. We’re so eager to set the example of expensive bombing missions. How about we set an example of a wealthy country taking responsibility and attempting to make some reparations for our harmful actions. <these immigrants can be put in your neighborhood, yes?>

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It is important to note that the refugees and migrants (yes, the group also includes economic migrants) arriving now in Europe are not representative of the population of refugees from Syria. Getting to Europe has its price tag of about USD 5000. Given the amount of money, it’s no wonder Syrian (and not only Syrian) families invest in young men, who account for 85% of the group. Women, children, are a minority (though they make front pages, not men), simply because they have been left behind due to economic reasons. Many of them in refugee camps we have failed to help applying orderly measures of temporary or permanent relocation, despite repeated pleas from UNHCR. Today I hear from a friend volunteering in Budapest of a large group of Afgani boys and men left behind yesterday. They are hungry and have run out of money. Of course we need to provide them with immediate help. However, later on, registration combined with some form odf vetting needs to take place. Also, we cannot promote the “survival of the fittest” strategy and forget about our commitment to UNHCR and our promise to take women, children, the old and the poor who did not have the $5000 awaiting their turn in UN refugee camps. In fact, I believe that our failure to take more refugees amassed in UN camps has significantly exacerbated this crisis. Instead of tens or hundreds, it should have been thousands and tens of thousands. <these immigrants can be put in your neighborhood, yes?>

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“The US already has 41,000,000 immigrants living here, and we take in a 1,000,000 more legally each year and hundreds of thousands more illegally.”

In truth, the US is a land of immigrants, coming here wave after wave, looking for a place where they could raise families and perhaps get ahead in the world <generally true for non-Muslim immigrants, but not for Muslims>. Each wave was despised and castigated by those who came before; always for the same reasons. They take our jobs, they need public assistance, they do not look like us, they do not speak like us, they do not worship like us, they are different and in the end they all become Americans. They all go to work <not you Muzzies!>, they pay taxes <not you Muzzies!>, they raise their children so that their children can make a place in the community <uh, jihadists?>, they strive to make their lives better just like the rest of us <not you Muzzies! Your Muzzy no-go zones and ghettos are inhabited by 2nd, 3rd, 4th generations of your kind>, exactly the way your immigrant ancestors did. <Not really!>

Our founding fathers wrote the Constitution with full knowledge that we were a land of immigrants and their vision was that we would always be a land of immigrants <land of immigrants, not land of terrorists nor goat fornicating, camels’ urine drinking, daughters killing, murderous pedophiles masquerading as religious asylum seekers>. Being a land of immigrants is a big part of what makes us strong as a people and the country great among all countries.

There is no reason, since we as a nation have had a direct hand in setting the conditions which have led to this crisis in the first place, that should stop us from taking in Middle Eastern refuges. Sure, taking them in will be a hard things to do, but we should do so. In the end, we will be better off for having done so. <these immigrants can be put in your neighborhood, yes?>

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This article made me acutely indignant. Here is why:
– Sweden has 2359 asylum applicants for every 100 000 citizen. Considering the population size, this is like the United States having 7,5 million applicants. But the screening process is so inefficient that 65 000 Syrians would pose a problem?
– The reason stated is “terrorism”. The United States is so afraid of terrorism, that it will rather let tens of thousands of die instead of letting one terrorist into the country? What is the purpose of preventing terrorism, is it not to prevent people from dying?
– This is Europe’s responsibility…. all of a sudden? We all have a responsibility. I have talked to Americans who believe that the reason the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq is because the United States has a responsibility to help these people. Why is it that the United States had a responsibility to help the people in Iraq and Afghanistan by invading those countries, but does not have a responsibility to help Syrian refugees, a much less complex thing to do? <these immigrants can be put in your neighborhood, yes?>

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Mary Fitzpatrick

Hartland, WI

This country has lost it’s way. The Statue of Liberty should be taken down, because it is no long are representative of us. Instead, we — the wealthiest nation on earth — indeed, the wealthiest nation ever on earth — are “tired”, and we have no “appetite” for helping those tired masses. Sigh. Oh, it IS difficult to be us, isn’t it?

This supposedly most religious of nations <not really>, is the most hypocritical and selfish of nations <ugh, not the filthy and filthily rich Gulf nations (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emigrate, etc.) that refuse to take in ANY single refugee of its own kind yet always making a fuss when any non-Muslim countries refuse to admit Muzzy refugees?>. Now we want to put Fex Ex labels on people, deport them, and get back to football, Miley Cyrus’ wardrobe & the latest action movie. <these immigrants can be shipped to your neighborhood, yes?>

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Let us have fewer voyages of the St Louis and more Chiune Sugiharas and Oscar Schindlers. I know as a nation we are tired. But we must open our arms as wide as we can.

Here in the great State of Utah we are open for business and open for refugees. <these immigrants can be shipped to your neighborhood, yes? you are Utah, and Mohammed wasn’t a murderous pedophile, yes? Dearborn, MI or Gaza Strip is more likely>

NYT PickBuddyWoodinville, WashingtonGermany plan on taking in 800,000 refugees; we have 4 times the population of Germany. Based on the European Commission’s formula, we should be taking in 3 million refugees. We took in less than 2,000.We have lofty goal of bringing democracy into the region, but there is a price to morality.We should not have involved in Iraq, Libya and Syria.

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2. Comments from non-Muzzies

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J. Parula


Mr. Patrick said, adding that the crisis was “largely Europe’s responsibility.” Incredible! Germany and France opposed the war in Iraq from day one, and certainly Austria and the Scandinavian countries had nothing to do with it. There was an overwhelming popular opposition to the invasion of Iraq in Europe. It was not like in the US, where the press including the NYT and the Washington Post were all in favor of the war. That invasion and the subsequent interventions have exacerbated the problems in the entire region. Of course, the situation in Syria and the region is also caused by internal tribalism, and sectarian divisions. Having said that, I think that an intervention in Syria is needed but not headed by the West, but by the UN supported by the Arab League, Iran and all the great powers. Otherwise the suffering will continue unabated for many years. The responsibility should lie squarely on the countries of the Middle East, and they should take the lead jointly with the United Nations.
Regarding refugees, Sweden, a country which has nothing to do with the wars in the Middle East has taken a number of refugees equal to 1% of its population. If we take the same number of refugees, we will have to take approximately 3 million refugees.

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I am deeply troubled by this refugee and immigration crisis on so many levels, but I do not think bringing Syrian refugees to this country is a good solution. In fact, I don’t think that spreading them around Europe is a good solution either, as that will destabilize European nations, undermine their cultures and depopulate Syria and nearby countries, with less possibility of refugees reclaiming their homes and nations in the future.
Here’s one idea that might reduce the involvement of inhumane traffickers: the EU could support Mediterranean-facing countries like Greece and Spain in caring appropriately for refugees, including planning for repatriation if/when feasible, in return for forgiving their EU debts. The refugees’ journey to those countries would be shorter and could be regulated to make it safer. They would be closer to their lands of origin and better able to return in the future. If well-planned and supported by richer nations, including the U.S. which bears responsibility for destabilizing the Middle East, their presence might even help those economies. I bet many Germans and Northern Europeans would embrace some such plan.

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I suppose I agree wholeheartedly with the public’s perception as presented in this article. As a middle class, millennial taxpayer, I’m grateful for the strides I’ve made, but I’m simply tired. Tired of our country being the both world’s defender and welcome mat for the world’s ills and its sufferers, all while my fellow Americans suffer and their needs go a-begging. Many, if not most of us continue to suffer with chronic un(or under)employment, stagnant wages causing income inequality, crushing student loan debt, crumbling infrastructure, austerity measures that draw up the safety net intended to help our most neediest citizens, police brutality, and attempts to lower the standard of living for us all. Quite simply, I’ve had it. Enough. When the American public rose up in great opposition to intervening in Syria, it was due to weariness with Middle East conflicts, but also due to many of the issues I’ve mentioned above. In my view, there are American here at home, lacking advocacy that we should be attending to. Why is it that charity is always extended far from these shores with our tax dollars? Enough.

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Los Angeles

How exactly is it “largely Europe’s responsibility”? Europe is not Syria. Europe simply happens to be next door to it.

Responsibility is not assumed by the first person to whom a problem travels. Otherwise, the bystander who finds a wounded person who would responsible for saving him, not the paramedics called.

Syria is no more, or less, a responsibility of Europe than it is of any other developed country with the means to help. Some would argue America has a particular responsibility because it led efforts to intervene in the region, which, despite good intentions, has destabilized it.

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The problem is, 65,000, or even 800,000, are only a small fraction of the number of displaced Syrians, leave alone the total number of would-be refugees from the region. It’s nice, but not the (only) solution. Yes, many are middle class professionals, but seriously, how will they work here speaking limited English with irrelevant credentials (lawyers) or needing additional training and licensing (medical professionals)? How happy will they and their families be here in our culture, with permanently reduced prospects? Will their children grow up vulnerable to radicalization as so many Somali immigrants have? THINK before urging. 65,000 is a town. 800,000 is a city. When we are not educating all our children well and not caring for our ill and elderly, what are we doing taking on another massive humanitarian burden?

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Not a single mention of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc., which are a lot closer to Syria then is Europe, and already have to import all of its blue collar work force, lest they get their own hands dirty. Didn’t we go to war for Kuwait in the 1990’s? Now they sit back and do next to nothing while a humanitarian catastrophe takes place next door?

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Chicago, Illinois

This may be one of the few times in the past decade that I am thankful we have a Republican Party with right-wing extremists. The last thing we need to do is take in additional waves of immigrants from all over the globe when we cannot provide a basic safety net of social welfare programs for our own citizens. The United States cannot continue to be the dumping ground of choice for anyone seeking to escape a dysfunctional or dirt-poor country in the Middle East. Central America or Africa.

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